In this podcast episode, Kymone Hinds interviews Gifford Fleming, a guest who has been pastored by Kymone Hinds. They discuss the concept of ministry and Gifford's background and career choices. Gifford shares his definition of ministry and the importance of bringing people closer to God and meeting their needs. They also talk about Gifford's involvement in church and ministry and his transition from ministry to real estate. Gifford shares his experience with a building project at his church and how it led him to pursue real estate as a way to monetize his ministry. We emphasize the importance of planning, research, and viewing money and investments as a ministry. The episode concludes with Kymone expressing gratitude and potentially announcing a collaboration with Gifford on a course about real estate from a spiritual perspective.

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Show Notes

[00:02:57] Gifford's definition of ministry
Gifford shares his understanding of ministry as doing God's work and helping others, bringing them closer to God.

[00:03:39] Gifford's career choices
Gifford talks about his father's influence and how he wanted him to become an architect, but Gifford chose to study engineering instead.

[00:06:12] Gifford's involvement in church ministry

Gifford shares how he became a part of a church in Memphis and immediately got involved in various aspects of ministry, including being on the deacon board and working with youth ministries.

[00:08:18] Trying out different avenues in ministry
Discussing the mindset of trying out different things in ministry and using the church as a testing ground for career paths.

[00:09:00] Using church involvement for career exploration
Highlighting the church as a platform to try out different career paths and gain valuable experience
while doing ministry.

[00:14:34] Facilities as a ministry
Exploring the concept of taking care of church facilities as a ministry and the motivation behind ensuring
a pleasing place of worship.

[00:16:48] Building the New Facility
Discussion about the opportunity and challenges of moving to a new facility and the work required to
remodel it.

[00:17:38] Doing the Work Ourselves
Description of how the church members took on the task of remodeling the facility themselves,
discovering hidden skill sets within the community.

[00:22:08] The Grand Opening
The project lasted for about three years, with members dedicating their weekends and after-work hours to complete the renovation. The grand opening was a rewarding experience, with conference members amazed by the results achieved by the church members themselves.

[00:25:12] Getting involved in real estate
Discussion about pivoting to real estate as a way to build wealth and the skills acquired in ministry.

[00:26:11] Gifford's first property

Talking about purchasing the first property, overcoming fear, and seeing the potential of a foreclosure.

[00:29:57] Tips for getting involved in real estate
Gifford shares the importance of location, doing homework, and creating a plan when getting into real
estate.

[00:32:51] Real Estate Considerations
Discussion on the factors to consider when getting into real estate, including location, rental vs. selling,
and the importance of research.

[00:34:41] Different Ways to Approach Real Estate
Exploration of the various approaches to real estate investment, including different strategies and the
flexibility of the real estate market.

[00:37:54] Overcoming Fear in Real Estate
Advice on overcoming fear and gaining confidence in real estate investment, drawing from personal
experiences and the importance of faith and prayer.

[00:41:22] Gifford's impact in the church
Gifford's influence on Kymone and the idea of starting a course on real estate God's way.

[00:41:22] Understanding stewardship
The concept of being a steward and using gifts from God to serve others and increase income and
impact.

[00:42:24] Closing remarks and call to action
We thank the listeners, provide information on where to find more episodes, and encourage sharing the
episode with others.